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	<title>Comments on: Incarnation and the Technology of Virtual Worlds</title>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2008/12/incarnation-and-the-technology-of-virtual-worlds/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - 

Hey thanks for the shout out!  ha,ha.

As someone who spends much time connecting with both people online, and those in the &quot;real&quot; world I spend much time thinking about these topics.  Both the advantages and dangers of building &quot;virtual community.&quot; {I use the term &quot;virtual&quot; very loosely as the lines are starting to blur between online and offline.}  

One thing you can never do online is hug someone. There is no way.  Nor can I hold someone&#039;s hand why I pray with them about their dying father who isn&#039;t a Christian.  There is something to be said for physical touch.  Even today.

Like one of Rhett&#039;s goals - I to would enjoy meeting as many people I meet online in &quot;real&quot; life.  Look them in the face, eat a meal with them, hear {and listen} to their story - in other words talk more to them then 140 characters at a time. 

For me, I view these social networking TOOLS as just that - tools.  Tools to build bridges, connect, network, brainstorm, etc.  But for now, I never want it to just &quot;stay there.&quot;  This is especially important with these online churches we are seeing so many of today.  

My danger is that people will never leave their house - ever.  They will never have the awesome privilege of sharing their faith with someone, with going on a mission trip {not that you can&#039;t have mission &quot;trips&quot; online} but holding a hammer in their hand as they sweat.  Or connecting with other believers in REAL life.  {again I use the term REAL very loosely&quot;}  

I just want people, myself included, to live life with others.  To have friends. Because when hard times come, and they will, it&#039;s not my online friends who are going to come to my house to be with me, to bring me meals, to pray with me, etc - it&#039;s going to be the friends that I am &quot;doing&quot; life with.  And that is what I want for everyone.  

Thanks for thinking through these issues as well! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; </p>
<p>Hey thanks for the shout out!  ha,ha.</p>
<p>As someone who spends much time connecting with both people online, and those in the &#8220;real&#8221; world I spend much time thinking about these topics.  Both the advantages and dangers of building &#8220;virtual community.&#8221; {I use the term &#8220;virtual&#8221; very loosely as the lines are starting to blur between online and offline.}  </p>
<p>One thing you can never do online is hug someone. There is no way.  Nor can I hold someone&#8217;s hand why I pray with them about their dying father who isn&#8217;t a Christian.  There is something to be said for physical touch.  Even today.</p>
<p>Like one of Rhett&#8217;s goals &#8211; I to would enjoy meeting as many people I meet online in &#8220;real&#8221; life.  Look them in the face, eat a meal with them, hear {and listen} to their story &#8211; in other words talk more to them then 140 characters at a time. </p>
<p>For me, I view these social networking TOOLS as just that &#8211; tools.  Tools to build bridges, connect, network, brainstorm, etc.  But for now, I never want it to just &#8220;stay there.&#8221;  This is especially important with these online churches we are seeing so many of today.  </p>
<p>My danger is that people will never leave their house &#8211; ever.  They will never have the awesome privilege of sharing their faith with someone, with going on a mission trip {not that you can&#8217;t have mission &#8220;trips&#8221; online} but holding a hammer in their hand as they sweat.  Or connecting with other believers in REAL life.  {again I use the term REAL very loosely&#8221;}  </p>
<p>I just want people, myself included, to live life with others.  To have friends. Because when hard times come, and they will, it&#8217;s not my online friends who are going to come to my house to be with me, to bring me meals, to pray with me, etc &#8211; it&#8217;s going to be the friends that I am &#8220;doing&#8221; life with.  And that is what I want for everyone.  </p>
<p>Thanks for thinking through these issues as well!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dyer</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2008/12/incarnation-and-the-technology-of-virtual-worlds/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn,
Thanks for your kinds words! I too have found that offline relationships tend to be more challenging which inclines me to think they have more of the &quot;whole picture&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn,<br />
Thanks for your kinds words! I too have found that offline relationships tend to be more challenging which inclines me to think they have more of the &#8220;whole picture&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Carter</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2008/12/incarnation-and-the-technology-of-virtual-worlds/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your great post! 

I found you via Rhett Smith&#039;s tweet about you (just today)... it must have been a great lunch indeed.

I appreciate your perspective about virtual relationships and the importance of interjecting one&#039;s physical presence into the equation. The whole picture (which includes the physical world) is messier, but its also more real. 

My online friends never irritate me like small group / ministry team friends do. But then I seldom have occasion to work out God&#039;s grace on them either. 

Thanks again for your thoughts. I&#039;m glad to add you to my reader.

Dawn Carter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your great post! </p>
<p>I found you via Rhett Smith&#8217;s tweet about you (just today)&#8230; it must have been a great lunch indeed.</p>
<p>I appreciate your perspective about virtual relationships and the importance of interjecting one&#8217;s physical presence into the equation. The whole picture (which includes the physical world) is messier, but its also more real. </p>
<p>My online friends never irritate me like small group / ministry team friends do. But then I seldom have occasion to work out God&#8217;s grace on them either. </p>
<p>Thanks again for your thoughts. I&#8217;m glad to add you to my reader.</p>
<p>Dawn Carter</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2008/12/incarnation-and-the-technology-of-virtual-worlds/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your brother doing in Hawaii??  Kathy would love to be there right now, she misses it.  I hope you and your family are doing ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your brother doing in Hawaii??  Kathy would love to be there right now, she misses it.  I hope you and your family are doing ok.</p>
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