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	<title>Comments on: Five Things We the Church Need to Know about Technological Change (4 of 5): Technology is Ecological, not Additive</title>
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	<description>Technology is Fast, but Redemption is Slow</description>
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		<title>By: John Dyer</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/five-things-we-the-church-need-to-know-about-technological-change-4-of-5-technology-is-ecological-not-additive/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, thanks for catching that. I transferred my blog from another system to Wordpress recently, and it looks like those posts were mangled. They are fixed now. If you see anything else, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, thanks for catching that. I transferred my blog from another system to WordPress recently, and it looks like those posts were mangled. They are fixed now. If you see anything else, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam X</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/five-things-we-the-church-need-to-know-about-technological-change-4-of-5-technology-is-ecological-not-additive/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or are #2 and #4 in this series cut off?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or are #2 and #4 in this series cut off?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: 100 Hundreds </title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/five-things-we-the-church-need-to-know-about-technological-change-4-of-5-technology-is-ecological-not-additive/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>100 Hundreds </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Five Things We the Church Need to Know about Technological Change (4 of 5): Technology is Ecological, not Additive</description>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/five-things-we-the-church-need-to-know-about-technological-change-4-of-5-technology-is-ecological-not-additive/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still really enjoying this series. 

Have you read The Millennium Matrix by Rex Miller (have I asked that already)? Miller talks about how technology/communication changes our worldview and how it relates to the church. Really, really good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still really enjoying this series. </p>
<p>Have you read The Millennium Matrix by Rex Miller (have I asked that already)? Miller talks about how technology/communication changes our worldview and how it relates to the church. Really, really good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dyer</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/five-things-we-the-church-need-to-know-about-technological-change-4-of-5-technology-is-ecological-not-additive/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bronson, thanks for your kind words about the blog!

Of course, the web is not the only technology that we use or that affects us ecologically. Even the presence of the old &quot;church van&quot; influences what kinds of ministries we&#039;ll do.

But, in regards to [i]Internet[/i] technologies I&#039;m inclined to say that your proposed taxonomy would be accurate in regards to how deeply a church has integrated the Internet into their activities. The deeper the integration, the more ecological it becomes. Even the additive category though will have some shifts like fewer bulletins (in favor of a web calendar), but the shifts will be more minor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bronson, thanks for your kind words about the blog!</p>
<p>Of course, the web is not the only technology that we use or that affects us ecologically. Even the presence of the old &#8220;church van&#8221; influences what kinds of ministries we&#8217;ll do.</p>
<p>But, in regards to [i]Internet[/i] technologies I&#8217;m inclined to say that your proposed taxonomy would be accurate in regards to how deeply a church has integrated the Internet into their activities. The deeper the integration, the more ecological it becomes. Even the additive category though will have some shifts like fewer bulletins (in favor of a web calendar), but the shifts will be more minor.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronson Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronson Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like there are three phases currently present:

1) Offline Churches - no tech involved (builders)
2) Additive Churches - we have a church web site (boomers)
3) Ecological Churches - we have small groups on tokbox (busters)

What do you think? BTW, I&#039;m really enjoying your blog. It&#039;s one of the few that I read completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like there are three phases currently present:</p>
<p>1) Offline Churches &#8211; no tech involved (builders)<br />
2) Additive Churches &#8211; we have a church web site (boomers)<br />
3) Ecological Churches &#8211; we have small groups on tokbox (busters)</p>
<p>What do you think? BTW, I&#8217;m really enjoying your blog. It&#8217;s one of the few that I read completely.</p>
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		<title>By: bleek</title>
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		<dc:creator>bleek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no charge for awesomeness.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no charge for awesomeness.&#8221;</p>
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