Comments on: Technology and “Face to Face” in the New Testament http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/ Technology is Fast, but Redemption is Slow Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:32:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jim Gray http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-87 Jim Gray Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:37:47 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-87 good use of the greek here. i've been processing the online thing via my teaching through Acts on Sunday morning. One thing resonates...the Church is God's Church, whether online or down the street at Beacon Hill Baptist. Good job on staying in context and letting Scripture speak rather than using it to back up your opinion. Finally,listen the Master ChurchCrunch who says break it up into pieces! good use of the greek here.
i’ve been processing the online thing via my teaching through Acts on Sunday morning. One thing resonates…the Church is God’s Church, whether online or down the street at Beacon Hill Baptist.
Good job on staying in context and letting Scripture speak rather than using it to back up your opinion.

Finally,listen the Master ChurchCrunch who says break it up into pieces!

]]> By: Joe Rigney http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-86 Joe Rigney Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:54:47 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-86 John, Great post. Exactly the tact that I've thought about exploring with respect to technology and the church. Face to face does seem to be a priority in the New Testament. Couple it with a theology of God's Presence in communities (Where two are three are gathered...) and we have the beginnings of some interesting discussion regarding the propriety of certain kinds of technology in the church. It also raises questions about the mega-church phenomenon in general (Does a mega-church militate against the kind of face-to-face interaction in the NT?). Also enjoyed the posts on Postman, and BestCommentaries.com. I gather from the bio that you spent some time in College Station. I'm class of 2005. I believe I recognized Robbie Gentry in a picture; he was my assistant chaplain when I was chaplain of Brotherhood of Christian Aggies. I've got a good buddy working at Grace right now as youth pastor of the new campus. In any event, keep up the good work. John,

Great post. Exactly the tact that I’ve thought about exploring with respect to technology and the church. Face to face does seem to be a priority in the New Testament. Couple it with a theology of God’s Presence in communities (Where two are three are gathered…) and we have the beginnings of some interesting discussion regarding the propriety of certain kinds of technology in the church.

It also raises questions about the mega-church phenomenon in general (Does a mega-church militate against the kind of face-to-face interaction in the NT?).

Also enjoyed the posts on Postman, and BestCommentaries.com. I gather from the bio that you spent some time in College Station. I’m class of 2005. I believe I recognized Robbie Gentry in a picture; he was my assistant chaplain when I was chaplain of Brotherhood of Christian Aggies. I’ve got a good buddy working at Grace right now as youth pastor of the new campus.

In any event, keep up the good work.

]]> By: John Dyer http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-85 John Dyer Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:12:38 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-85 By: John Dyer http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-84 John Dyer Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:11:58 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-84 By: John Dyer http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-83 John Dyer Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:10:18 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-83 Chris, thanks for your comments. I do appreciate how many web tools allow us to re-connect locally. I especially love how my job allows me to work from home sometimes. Regarding the question, "should community be location based?" I might add something like "Should the *fullness* of community be location based?" I know my marriage and role as father can't happen solely through technology, but other roles can and do... Chris, thanks for your comments. I do appreciate how many web tools allow us to re-connect locally. I especially love how my job allows me to work from home sometimes.

Regarding the question, “should community be location based?” I might add something like “Should the *fullness* of community be location based?” I know my marriage and role as father can’t happen solely through technology, but other roles can and do…

]]> By: John Dyer http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-82 John Dyer Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:06:57 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-82 By: John Dyer http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-81 John Dyer Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:05:43 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-81 Always good to hear from you Rhett! You and I gotta get some one on one time! Always good to hear from you Rhett! You and I gotta get some one on one time!

]]> By: John (Human3rror) http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-80 John (Human3rror) Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:17:16 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-80 your posts are too long. my head hurts. your posts are too long. my head hurts.

]]> By: Chris Allison http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-79 Chris Allison Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:43:51 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-79 I think this is the church's side of the most important question raised by the internet, that is: should community be location based? Many tools, apps, etc. on the internet are being built to encourage location based community (local search, localized phone apps, local news such as outside.in, the list goes on) yet at the same time the internet, by its very nature, discourages location based community by encouraging a broadening and thinning of our relational energy across the globe. If I spend much of my time locally then less of it will be available for web based relationships, and vise versa. I think this, combined with the points you made in your post, lead us to the conclusion that when possible we should be embracing location based community. If we embrace community that is not based on location then we sacrifice the value of "presence", which I think would be a tremendous loss to us as the church and humans in general. Great post. I think this is the church’s side of the most important question raised by the internet, that is: should community be location based?

Many tools, apps, etc. on the internet are being built to encourage location based community (local search, localized phone apps, local news such as outside.in, the list goes on) yet at the same time the internet, by its very nature, discourages location based community by encouraging a broadening and thinning of our relational energy across the globe.

If I spend much of my time locally then less of it will be available for web based relationships, and vise versa. I think this, combined with the points you made in your post, lead us to the conclusion that when possible we should be embracing location based community. If we embrace community that is not based on location then we sacrifice the value of “presence”, which I think would be a tremendous loss to us as the church and humans in general.

Great post.

]]> By: Bronson Taylor http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/01/technology-and-%e2%80%9cface-to-face%e2%80%9d-in-the-new-testament/#comment-78 Bronson Taylor Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:30:23 +0000 bcea69b7-e26d-47cd-8aae-4b717a81074f#comment-78 Here is another post that "every internet pastor should read": http://www.gulfchurch.com/blog/2009/1/10/a-simple-thought-experiment-that-every-internet-pastor-shoul.html Here is another post that “every internet pastor should read”: http://www.gulfchurch.com/blog/2009/1/10/a-simple-thought-experiment-that-every-internet-pastor-shoul.html

]]>