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	<title>Comments on: Internet Anonymity, Like Fig Leaves and AA, Can Be a Means of Grace</title>
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	<description>Technology is Fast, but Redemption is Slow</description>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-83279</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raymond.woo@energizer.com,</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Frelow</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-23205</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Frelow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article do you mind if i translate into Dutch for our sites subscribers? Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article do you mind if i translate into Dutch for our sites subscribers? Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Linkage &#171; The Kid Preacher</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Linkage &#171; The Kid Preacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] REALLY liked this post on an OVERLOOKED aspect of internet anonymity by a dude named John [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Dyer</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew, great to hear from you!

Questions about whether the Fall was necessary or not are way &quot;outside my pay grade&quot;:) But I have noticed two interesting things about the fall and technology. First, after the story of Cain and Abel in Gen. 4, it is Cain&#039;s pagan descendants who create music, metal tools, and husbandry while nothing is mentioned about what Seth&#039;s line created. Second, the portrait of the eschaton is always a city, not a garden. A city of course needs technology of some kind. So whatever the cause, it looks like our future will involve some kind of technology. Yeah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew, great to hear from you!</p>
<p>Questions about whether the Fall was necessary or not are way &#8220;outside my pay grade&#8221;:) But I have noticed two interesting things about the fall and technology. First, after the story of Cain and Abel in Gen. 4, it is Cain&#8217;s pagan descendants who create music, metal tools, and husbandry while nothing is mentioned about what Seth&#8217;s line created. Second, the portrait of the eschaton is always a city, not a garden. A city of course needs technology of some kind. So whatever the cause, it looks like our future will involve some kind of technology. Yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Sams</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Sams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - great post!

I loved the concept of &quot;the first anonymizer.&quot; Specifically, how you connect the fig leaves as the first technological invention to cover Adam and Eve&#039;s shame with the anonymity of the internet that covers our shame today.

I&#039;ve had a light bulb moment since reading your post and it&#039;s raised a question for me that I&#039;ve never considered:

So, with McLuhan&#039;s premise that media is an extension of our humanity and your statement that &quot;all our technology functions in some way to protect us from the effects of the Fall.&quot;...do you think that the Fall was the reason why we needed and created technology in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; great post!</p>
<p>I loved the concept of &#8220;the first anonymizer.&#8221; Specifically, how you connect the fig leaves as the first technological invention to cover Adam and Eve&#8217;s shame with the anonymity of the internet that covers our shame today.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a light bulb moment since reading your post and it&#8217;s raised a question for me that I&#8217;ve never considered:</p>
<p>So, with McLuhan&#8217;s premise that media is an extension of our humanity and your statement that &#8220;all our technology functions in some way to protect us from the effects of the Fall.&#8221;&#8230;do you think that the Fall was the reason why we needed and created technology in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: John Dyer</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by Adam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Adam!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dyer</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll get to work immediately sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll get to work immediately sir!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dyer</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhett, I intentionally mentioned counseling to refer to you and the ideas about online counseling you&#039;ve mentioned. I&#039;d love to know more about the language counselors use to talk about the counselor/counselee relationship,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhett, I intentionally mentioned counseling to refer to you and the ideas about online counseling you&#8217;ve mentioned. I&#8217;d love to know more about the language counselors use to talk about the counselor/counselee relationship,</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good points!</description>
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		<title>By: Rhett Smith</title>
		<link>http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/04/internet-anonymity-like-loin-cloths-and-aa-can-be-a-means-of-grace/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhett Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 05:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Awesome.  Would love to talk about this more...great stuff....I think you are on to something, and it has me thinking a lot about my MFT work.

rhett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Awesome.  Would love to talk about this more&#8230;great stuff&#8230;.I think you are on to something, and it has me thinking a lot about my MFT work.</p>
<p>rhett</p>
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