Comments on: Pornography Is Not Just About Lust:The Emotional Power of Images http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/ Technology is Fast, but Redemption is Slow Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:23:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kyle Steed http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-8469 Kyle Steed Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:20:39 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-8469 "but all that work might also prevent you from allowing the Spirit of God to heal the underlying issues." Amen to that. I can testify to the fact that in all my strength and will power, nothing compares to the power of the Holy Spirit coming in and cleaning house. Sure there are better days than others, but God has healed a lot of my old wounds. And the only times I fall are when I think I am strong enough. “but all that work might also prevent you from allowing the Spirit of God to heal the underlying issues.” Amen to that. I can testify to the fact that in all my strength and will power, nothing compares to the power of the Holy Spirit coming in and cleaning house. Sure there are better days than others, but God has healed a lot of my old wounds. And the only times I fall are when I think I am strong enough.

]]> By: Quoting with Comment | Mere Orthodoxy http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5457 Quoting with Comment | Mere Orthodoxy Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:26:10 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5457 [...] John Dyer on the role of images and pornography: [...] [...] John Dyer on the role of images and pornography: [...]

]]> By: Stan http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5425 Stan Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:05:46 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5425 Sorry. Wrong link above. Try this one. http://jesusneedsnewpr.blogspot.com/2009/09/anonymous-life-sex-wednesday.html Sorry. Wrong link above. Try this one. http://jesusneedsnewpr.blogspot.com/2009/09/anonymous-life-sex-wednesday.html

]]> By: Stan http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5422 Stan Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:04:00 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5422 I agree and think that your blog fits very well with this one also: http://godshere.org/index_resources_lessons.html. The truth is that many people hurt deeply and look to something to numb them from that pain. The images of pornography, as you adequately shown, can be this very "medication" we look for. Similar thought process for work-a-holics. Thanks for your post. I'll definitely be heading back over here. I agree and think that your blog fits very well with this one also: http://godshere.org/index_resources_lessons.html. The truth is that many people hurt deeply and look to something to numb them from that pain. The images of pornography, as you adequately shown, can be this very “medication” we look for. Similar thought process for work-a-holics. Thanks for your post. I’ll definitely be heading back over here.

]]> By: mcclanahandg http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5330 mcclanahandg Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:22:26 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5330 Great post! Thank you so much for that! Whether he is a psychologist or not...he is right. I am a Psych major in college and everything he said is spot on and backed up by research in more than just the subject of pornography. Many times we do things for reasons that are deeper than what we think they may be on the surface. Thank you again for this reminder and keep the posts coming! Great post! Thank you so much for that! Whether he is a psychologist or not…he is right. I am a Psych major in college and everything he said is spot on and backed up by research in more than just the subject of pornography. Many times we do things for reasons that are deeper than what we think they may be on the surface. Thank you again for this reminder and keep the posts coming!

]]> By: Ron http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5329 Ron Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:22:05 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5329 I don't know much about psychology, but, for whatever reason, it's true. Pornography kills pain. So do strippers, adultery, drugs, booze, and all the other things we try to kill pain with The only trouble is, they don't really kill the pain or, if they do, it's only for a moment, and the consequences of all this stuff only cause us more pain than we had before. (BTW, I've done them all, and I know they don't work.) God doesn't want us to deal with pain; He didn't design us for it, and it's because He doesn't want us to experience pain that the place where all our pain is is in the flesh. Our spirit doesn't experience pain; our spirit is seated in heavenly realms in Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:6) It's really only the flesh that experiences pain, and that's what God wants nailed to the Cross with Christ so that we can be the righteousness of God in Him. What I've personally been doing more than anything else lately is claiming Gal. 2:20: I am crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live but He Who lives in me; and the life I live in the body is by faith in the Son of God Who loved me and gave Himself for me. And I can pray this, not because I'm so holy, because I'm not holy and it's not the holy part of me that's crucified with Christ. It's my filthy, stinking, dying, pain-ridden flesh, which He is gracious enough to have on the cross with Him so that I can be freed of all that junk. Christ absorbed all the pain in the universe for six hours on the Cross so that I don't have to. All I need to do is receive the free gift of His Spirit and, whenever I'm tempted to look at something fleshy (like porn) that I think will kill the flesh pain, look at Messiah on the Cross instead, and allow Him to free my Spirit. And the Good News from Hebrews 1 is, after He made atonement for sin, He sat down beside the majesty in heaven. In other words, Messiah took all my pain on the Cross, but then immediately went to His rightful place beside God the Father. He is free of pain and so am I. Hallelujah!!! Where's the downside? Hope this helps. It's what's been working for me. Love to all of you, Ron I don’t know much about psychology, but, for whatever reason, it’s true. Pornography kills pain. So do strippers, adultery, drugs, booze, and all the other things we try to kill pain with The only trouble is, they don’t really kill the pain or, if they do, it’s only for a moment, and the consequences of all this stuff only cause us more pain than we had before. (BTW, I’ve done them all, and I know they don’t work.)

God doesn’t want us to deal with pain; He didn’t design us for it, and it’s because He doesn’t want us to experience pain that the place where all our pain is is in the flesh. Our spirit doesn’t experience pain; our spirit is seated in heavenly realms in Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:6) It’s really only the flesh that experiences pain, and that’s what God wants nailed to the Cross with Christ so that we can be the righteousness of God in Him.

What I’ve personally been doing more than anything else lately is claiming Gal. 2:20: I am crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live but He Who lives in me; and the life I live in the body is by faith in the Son of God Who loved me and gave Himself for me. And I can pray this, not because I’m so holy, because I’m not holy and it’s not the holy part of me that’s crucified with Christ. It’s my filthy, stinking, dying, pain-ridden flesh, which He is gracious enough to have on the cross with Him so that I can be freed of all that junk.

Christ absorbed all the pain in the universe for six hours on the Cross so that I don’t have to. All I need to do is receive the free gift of His Spirit and, whenever I’m tempted to look at something fleshy (like porn) that I think will kill the flesh pain, look at Messiah on the Cross instead, and allow Him to free my Spirit. And the Good News from Hebrews 1 is, after He made atonement for sin, He sat down beside the majesty in heaven. In other words, Messiah took all my pain on the Cross, but then immediately went to His rightful place beside God the Father. He is free of pain and so am I. Hallelujah!!! Where’s the downside?

Hope this helps. It’s what’s been working for me.

Love to all of you,
Ron

]]> By: slumdogbrother http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5328 slumdogbrother Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:21:04 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5328 i really dont care what psychology courses John Dyer has taken. i really dont care whether or not you think he has the appropriate education to address this. he hit me point blank. pornography is about more than just pleasure. for me, its the emotional intimacy i feel like i experience those few moments. of course thats not an excuse. its admitting that i have bigger problems than the one most evident. thank you John i really dont care what psychology courses John Dyer has taken. i really dont care whether or not you think he has the appropriate education to address this. he hit me point blank. pornography is about more than just pleasure. for me, its the emotional intimacy i feel like i experience those few moments. of course thats not an excuse. its admitting that i have bigger problems than the one most evident. thank you John

]]> By: Suricou Raven http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5327 Suricou Raven Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:20:46 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5327 There's a real clinical psychologist producing videos posted in the Parent's blog. I have little trust in his abilitities, but it's still a lot more than I have in the source of this faux-profound rambling. Leave the psychiatry to him - he at least has some fundamental understanding of the field. A knowledge of biochemistry is a useful thing to have, but not applicable to this. There’s a real clinical psychologist producing videos posted in the Parent’s blog. I have little trust in his abilitities, but it’s still a lot more than I have in the source of this faux-profound rambling. Leave the psychiatry to him – he at least has some fundamental understanding of the field. A knowledge of biochemistry is a useful thing to have, but not applicable to this.

]]> By: Lee http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5281 Lee Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:26:26 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5281 What a great post! As someone who connects visually quite a lot, i can understand what you are saying about still and moving imagery and even the stories they tell and how the human soul connects at that level. Thank you for your insight. i have never actually tried to make sense of it like i have after reading your post. What a great post! As someone who connects visually quite a lot, i can understand what you are saying about still and moving imagery and even the stories they tell and how the human soul connects at that level. Thank you for your insight. i have never actually tried to make sense of it like i have after reading your post.

]]> By: John Dyer http://donteatthefruit.com/2009/09/pornography-is-not-just-about-lust/#comment-5240 John Dyer Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:48:32 +0000 http://donteatthefruit.com/?p=439#comment-5240 Luke, thanks for all your work on Covenant Eyes, which some of my closest friends and I have used for years. Luke, thanks for all your work on Covenant Eyes, which some of my closest friends and I have used for years.

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